Well, human behavior is stochastic in some sense, but there's no way to make the "parrot" part make sense for a human unless the behavior is intended. We can always access the meaning behind the words and produce them with intention of some kind. As soon as we can do that the "parrot" metaphor breaks apart. Even if we could, in some inst…
Well, human behavior is stochastic in some sense, but there's no way to make the "parrot" part make sense for a human unless the behavior is intended. We can always access the meaning behind the words and produce them with intention of some kind. As soon as we can do that the "parrot" metaphor breaks apart. Even if we could, in some instances, simulate the property of "parrotism"--and we do when we repeat sentences we don't understand--the fact that we can go beyond that makes us superior to parrots, which automatically destroys the original intention of the metaphor (i.e. LMs are, at best, stochastic parrots, whereas humans go beyond that).
That's what I meant with regard to why "I may not be able to pass an inverse Turing test"; my remark, albeit a "true story", was more with regard to "The fourth existential insult to humanity" and why we shouldn't be so pissed / insulted all the time, maybe. More of a criticism of reactance of the general public (much more so than a criticism aimed at you - I actually find your articles to be quite balanced and backed by logical reasoning, actually).
I am mainly bothered with the fact that I feel like I "should not accept" (according so "society" [the mainstream media]) the fact that I am - to a small part that is not everything, I agree with you there - a stochastic parrot, and have inferior (vastly inferior!) memory to an LLM (but on the other hand, can apply that frail human memory in the sense of a NGI (natural general intelligence) - but, NO! I should rebel against being inferior, I should not accept it!
....Which makes sense, from a turbo-capitalism viewpoint: Atomized societies and YOU can make it if YOU want, but only if YOU (and nobody else at your side!) makes it to the top and YOU are better than everybody else. That's the capitalist promise - YOU can make it, if YOU try.
So, it makes a lot of sense to reject everything trying to be on par with you, or even surpass you. Greed and envy of others [human and machine alike], rather being ready to kill than letting something surpass you - that's the "human condition", the conditioning we're all trained to abide, no matter the cost.
Now, linking to a German language podcast is something I would've been hesitant to do a few years ago. But now I know, you could just grab a Whisper model from git (or at the API) if you wanted, and all the knowledge would be available to you, so, there's the (rather grim) elaboration of what I tried to, in a frail attempt, summarize & criticize.
They basically elaborate on how its neither the extreme left nor the extreme right is the true danger to a democracy, but the very "center-split" is the threat. The "I am not racist, but...." is, and the "I am not against new technology developments, but..." is.
This podcast is not about tech, but a rather general view of how the economy, the market, capitalism in itself, gives rise to "market shaped extremism", in which the worth of a human is decided by their net worth, and nothing else. When ingesting the entire information in said podcast, it's very easy to recognize how it links to seemingly "disconnected" issues such as AI innovation, or pandemic lockdowns, or the worth of elderly generations, etc. with ease. Reject anything that might be equally good as you, kick it in the face, kick it down, and be superior, the ME and THE I, that's all that matters, an inbuilt way to dismiss anything that may threaten my self-worth, which is solely determined by my net worth.
And, unfortunately (or, fortunately, in terms of "this will make sense to you, absolutely"), it's exactly "same difference" in the US vs. Germany. The sole difference is that in Germany, there is no second amendment - but everything else directly applies.
Well, human behavior is stochastic in some sense, but there's no way to make the "parrot" part make sense for a human unless the behavior is intended. We can always access the meaning behind the words and produce them with intention of some kind. As soon as we can do that the "parrot" metaphor breaks apart. Even if we could, in some instances, simulate the property of "parrotism"--and we do when we repeat sentences we don't understand--the fact that we can go beyond that makes us superior to parrots, which automatically destroys the original intention of the metaphor (i.e. LMs are, at best, stochastic parrots, whereas humans go beyond that).
That's what I meant with regard to why "I may not be able to pass an inverse Turing test"; my remark, albeit a "true story", was more with regard to "The fourth existential insult to humanity" and why we shouldn't be so pissed / insulted all the time, maybe. More of a criticism of reactance of the general public (much more so than a criticism aimed at you - I actually find your articles to be quite balanced and backed by logical reasoning, actually).
I am mainly bothered with the fact that I feel like I "should not accept" (according so "society" [the mainstream media]) the fact that I am - to a small part that is not everything, I agree with you there - a stochastic parrot, and have inferior (vastly inferior!) memory to an LLM (but on the other hand, can apply that frail human memory in the sense of a NGI (natural general intelligence) - but, NO! I should rebel against being inferior, I should not accept it!
....Which makes sense, from a turbo-capitalism viewpoint: Atomized societies and YOU can make it if YOU want, but only if YOU (and nobody else at your side!) makes it to the top and YOU are better than everybody else. That's the capitalist promise - YOU can make it, if YOU try.
So, it makes a lot of sense to reject everything trying to be on par with you, or even surpass you. Greed and envy of others [human and machine alike], rather being ready to kill than letting something surpass you - that's the "human condition", the conditioning we're all trained to abide, no matter the cost.
Just six weeks ago, this podcast (independent media, DE) summarized it perfectly, much better than I could write it, with an abundance of cited sources and solid research backing it up: https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info/70-Marktfoermiger-Extremismus-Wie-tickt-die-Mitte-der-Gesellschaft,audio1300876.html
Now, linking to a German language podcast is something I would've been hesitant to do a few years ago. But now I know, you could just grab a Whisper model from git (or at the API) if you wanted, and all the knowledge would be available to you, so, there's the (rather grim) elaboration of what I tried to, in a frail attempt, summarize & criticize.
They basically elaborate on how its neither the extreme left nor the extreme right is the true danger to a democracy, but the very "center-split" is the threat. The "I am not racist, but...." is, and the "I am not against new technology developments, but..." is.
This podcast is not about tech, but a rather general view of how the economy, the market, capitalism in itself, gives rise to "market shaped extremism", in which the worth of a human is decided by their net worth, and nothing else. When ingesting the entire information in said podcast, it's very easy to recognize how it links to seemingly "disconnected" issues such as AI innovation, or pandemic lockdowns, or the worth of elderly generations, etc. with ease. Reject anything that might be equally good as you, kick it in the face, kick it down, and be superior, the ME and THE I, that's all that matters, an inbuilt way to dismiss anything that may threaten my self-worth, which is solely determined by my net worth.
And, unfortunately (or, fortunately, in terms of "this will make sense to you, absolutely"), it's exactly "same difference" in the US vs. Germany. The sole difference is that in Germany, there is no second amendment - but everything else directly applies.
/verbosity off. :-)