Ok, fair points, thanks. I'm wondering a number of things, such as....
Of those who express the view that AI writing doesn't currently provide value, how much time have they put in to learning AI writing? I'm just getting started myself, so while my results so far are suitable for my site, they're not going to win any awards, agreed. I th…
Ok, fair points, thanks. I'm wondering a number of things, such as....
Of those who express the view that AI writing doesn't currently provide value, how much time have they put in to learning AI writing? I'm just getting started myself, so while my results so far are suitable for my site, they're not going to win any awards, agreed. I think what may be happening is that a lot of people get this far, don't like what they see, so they quit, and then declare AI writing useless.
But then I see people like the Nerdy Novelist, who is serious about both AI and fiction. https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist. And I think to myself, these are the kind of people who are pioneering the future. From his work I see the AI writing realm is already a lot more sophisticated than anything I ever read about on Substack, and it's only going to get better from here.
Also, I'm coming to the conclusion that Substack is not really an ideal place to discuss AI writing due to the understandable built in bias from human writers who see AI as a threat. It seems more important to dismiss AI writing on Substack than to learn it. Anyway, given that AI is coming like it or not, it interests me to see what can be done with it.
Finally, much of my view is formed by the experience of spending months on Substack devoting myself to serious human writing on topics of great importance, and then watching it be completely ignored. Way too much work, for way too little reward. It's not clear to me why I should keep investing in that process.
"From his work, I see the AI writing realm is already a lot more sophisticated than anything I ever read about on Substack."
Do you mean his AI writing is better than anything on here written by anyone? If that's the case then I suggest you read more things on here! There are amazing writers on here who clearly invalidate your claim (I admit it's a matter of opinion but still).
That said, I've read things co-written with AI that are really good. I'm not denying its value as a copilot of writing. I'm denying its value as a tool that can autonomously write anything worthwhile.
I agree that it's hard to talk with writers about this! Of course they (we) get defensive. I like to think I'm rather objective but I can't be fully objective. I nevertheless acknowledge some writers are giving AI a very good use. It's all about learning how to integrate it with your workflow, not about how to replace the entire workflow with AI. That's just lazy.
Most people won't get to the point where they feel AI is useful *for anything* that's just how tech adoption works and why there's an important advantage for those who learn to make it work. Using AI (somewhere) to write is the same thing if you do it well (leaving ethics considerations aside).
Finally, about your own writing, I'm sad to hear that. Just know that your story is the most common story. It's really hard to make it big on these platforms, irregardless of your writing quality or the importance of the topics you touch on. Substack, like Medium, follows an extreme power law. Very few succeed although many more try just as hard.
Thank you! And wish you the best luck both with your human writing and the AI writing as well.
Hi again, sorry, no, I didn't mean that Nerdy Novelist's writing was better than anything on Substack. I meant that his channel introduced me to all kinds of AI writing tools and techniques I've never seen discussed on Substack. AI writing is a bigger world than I had previously understood.
Anyway, yesterday I upgraded to ChatGPT Plus, and am really liking it. Dalle is beyond incredible. As I start my journey in to a more serious exploration of AI, here's that beginning.
My story idea. The text is 99%+ straight out of ChatGPT 3.5. Images from Dalle. I haven't found the button where you get a Pulitzer Prize yet, still working on that.... :-)
Ok, fair points, thanks. I'm wondering a number of things, such as....
Of those who express the view that AI writing doesn't currently provide value, how much time have they put in to learning AI writing? I'm just getting started myself, so while my results so far are suitable for my site, they're not going to win any awards, agreed. I think what may be happening is that a lot of people get this far, don't like what they see, so they quit, and then declare AI writing useless.
But then I see people like the Nerdy Novelist, who is serious about both AI and fiction. https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist. And I think to myself, these are the kind of people who are pioneering the future. From his work I see the AI writing realm is already a lot more sophisticated than anything I ever read about on Substack, and it's only going to get better from here.
Also, I'm coming to the conclusion that Substack is not really an ideal place to discuss AI writing due to the understandable built in bias from human writers who see AI as a threat. It seems more important to dismiss AI writing on Substack than to learn it. Anyway, given that AI is coming like it or not, it interests me to see what can be done with it.
Finally, much of my view is formed by the experience of spending months on Substack devoting myself to serious human writing on topics of great importance, and then watching it be completely ignored. Way too much work, for way too little reward. It's not clear to me why I should keep investing in that process.
Enjoy your trip!
"From his work, I see the AI writing realm is already a lot more sophisticated than anything I ever read about on Substack."
Do you mean his AI writing is better than anything on here written by anyone? If that's the case then I suggest you read more things on here! There are amazing writers on here who clearly invalidate your claim (I admit it's a matter of opinion but still).
That said, I've read things co-written with AI that are really good. I'm not denying its value as a copilot of writing. I'm denying its value as a tool that can autonomously write anything worthwhile.
I agree that it's hard to talk with writers about this! Of course they (we) get defensive. I like to think I'm rather objective but I can't be fully objective. I nevertheless acknowledge some writers are giving AI a very good use. It's all about learning how to integrate it with your workflow, not about how to replace the entire workflow with AI. That's just lazy.
Most people won't get to the point where they feel AI is useful *for anything* that's just how tech adoption works and why there's an important advantage for those who learn to make it work. Using AI (somewhere) to write is the same thing if you do it well (leaving ethics considerations aside).
Finally, about your own writing, I'm sad to hear that. Just know that your story is the most common story. It's really hard to make it big on these platforms, irregardless of your writing quality or the importance of the topics you touch on. Substack, like Medium, follows an extreme power law. Very few succeed although many more try just as hard.
Thank you! And wish you the best luck both with your human writing and the AI writing as well.
Hi again, sorry, no, I didn't mean that Nerdy Novelist's writing was better than anything on Substack. I meant that his channel introduced me to all kinds of AI writing tools and techniques I've never seen discussed on Substack. AI writing is a bigger world than I had previously understood.
Anyway, yesterday I upgraded to ChatGPT Plus, and am really liking it. Dalle is beyond incredible. As I start my journey in to a more serious exploration of AI, here's that beginning.
https://hippytoons.com/p/hippie-haven-clinic-nurse-nancy-restores
My story idea. The text is 99%+ straight out of ChatGPT 3.5. Images from Dalle. I haven't found the button where you get a Pulitzer Prize yet, still working on that.... :-)